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Irfan Yusuf is a lawyer, award-winning author, commentator and humorist. His comic memoir "Once Were Radicals: My Years As A Teenage Islamo-fascist" was published in May 2009. He currently lives in Sydney where he is completing his doctorate.
ann j replied to kae
Thu 15 Jan 09 (04:18pm)
Ah, for the good old days. The Middle Ages, for example, when torture was torture and the victim had a choice of the rack, wheel and thumbscrew, boiling, the bastinado and iron maiden, the wire jacket, being drawn and quartered…
Honor killings have happened in the USA as well as Canada. The spread of Islam (and Middle Eastern “culture") is driving the world back into the Dark Ages.
RebeccaH of the New Dystopia
Thu 15 Jan 09 (05:45am)
Alan of Sydney replied to Daniel LewisMore to come.
Tue 13 Jan 09 (02:31pm)
... The jury is still out as to how beneficial Muslim immigration will be - especially in these PC times where it’s OK to hate Jews but not permitted to hate Muslims.
The Muslim contribution will have to be counted in more than birth-rate I’m afraid.
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jupes replied to Daniel Lewis
Tue 13 Jan 09 (02:47pm)
... The Jewish people of Australia have an outstanding record in law, medicine, the arts, business and government, not to mention producing perhaps the greatest ever Australian, Sir John Monash, the outstanding allied general of WW1.
The Muslim people of Australia have an outstanding record in terrorist convictions, marching in support of terrorist organisations, raping women based on race, and general anti social behaviour.
The contrast couldn’t be more stunning.
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Daniel Lewis replied to Daniel Lewis
Tue 13 Jan 09 (03:09pm)
I don’t really want this thread to turn away from Greg Sher, whose memory deserves to blessed.
However, if you want to compare Jewish intellectual output with Islamic output, it’s a pretty short game.
There are a mere 12 Million Jews in the entire world yet they have received 184 Nobel Prizes.
The Muslims number 1.4 Billion (with a very big “B")… or 117 times the number of Jews! Based upon this 117:1 Muslim-to-Jewish ratio, one might expect the Muslims to have 24,920 Nobel Laureates.
But they have NINE!. [One was stabbed in the back by Islamists for his achievement], and one of them [Arafat] was a murderer
Comparing Jews to Muslims is a waste of time. I was focusing specifically on immigration to Sydney, for which you can probably use any other ethnic immigrant group as an comparison.
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Ever notice that when the Taliban or the Palestinians or most any other Muslim terrorist group commit an act of violence, it’s usually shooting a rocket? And when the Aussies fight, it’s usually up close, man to man?
Okay, I’ll grant there’s an exception when it comes to punishing unarmed women for baring an ankle or allowing themselves to be raped. Muslim men are all upfront and personal when it comes to putting women in their place.
Winfield of Ohio (Reply)
Tue 13 Jan 09 (09:36pm)
I HAVE always criticised the tendency of some Zionist commentators to dismiss all criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic.If all you can do is place labels on those who disagree with you, it's obvious you aren't terribly interested in dialogue. However, we also need to recognise prejudice wherever it is found. We need to call a spade a spade. If Israeli racism toward Palestinians (where it exists) is evil, so is racism toward Israelis and/or bigotry toward Jews.
Such a defensive knee-jerk reaction simply avoids confronting the issues and undermines the possibility of dialogue.
... in recent years, especially since the eruption of the latest conflict in Gaza last month, anti-Israeli sentiments often mutate into anti-Jewish ones. Recent events indicate that in Europe the traditional distinction between anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish feelings has become confusing and blurred.And in case you thought this was limited to some crazy Muslim types, consider this:
During a demonstration earlier this month, the Dutch Socialist Party MP Harry van Bommel called for a new intifada against Israel. Of course he has every right to express this political standpoint. However, he became an accomplice of the anti-Semites by choosing to do nothing when he heard chants of "Hamas, Hamas, all Jews to the gas" and similar anti-Jewish slogans. Many people who should know better prefer to keep quiet when they hear slogans such as "Kill the Jews" or "Jews to the oven" at protest demonstrations.
At a demonstration in London, such chants provoked little reaction from protesters who otherwise regard themselves as progressive anti-racists. Nor did they appear to be embarrassed by the sight of a man dressed up as a racist Jewish caricature - wearing a mask with a long, crooked nose - pretending to eat babies.
Increasingly, protesters are targeting Jews for being Jews. The demand to boycott Israeli goods in practice often means a call to boycott Jewish shops ...
European anti-Semitism is not simply a rhetorical act confined to a minority of Islamists or pro-Palestinian protesters. In Britain, Jewish schoolchildren have been castigated for belonging to a people with "blood on their hands". Their elders sometimes encounter intimidation and regularly report having to face verbal abuse ...Muslims themselves are not immune from this, often hiding it as anti-Israel feeling.
There is no doubt that the conflict has intensified the frustration and anger of supporters of the Palestinian cause. But it is important to note that the rise of European anti-Semitism is not a direct outcome of the fighting between Israel and Palestinians.
During the past two decades, and particularly since 2001, anti-Western feelings among European Muslims are often expressed through the language of anti-Semitism. Denunciations of the US are frequently accompanied by the targeting of the Jewish lobby's alleged influence. Such attitudes have gained momentum throughout this century.Muslims don't like it when people make up generalisations about them. It is true that some of those generating prejudice against Muslims are themselves of nominally Jewish heritage, including those behind the Obsession DVD that was distributed during the last US elections. But how reflective are these people of mainstream Jewish opinion? And if it is reflective (something which I strongly doubt), does that mean Muslims should replicate? How effective is it to fight prejudice with prejudice?
For example, one survey carried out in 2002 indicated that 25 per cent of German respondents took the view that "Jewish influence" on American politics was one important reason why the Bush administration invaded Iraq. The association of Jews with business, finance and the media has encouraged current anti-consumerist and anti-modernist sentiments to regard the influence of "these people" with concern. Is it any surprise that last year there was an explosion of conspiracy theories on the internet which blamed Jewish bankers for the financial crisis?
A believer is your brother in faith. A non-believer is your brother in humanity.
If I am not for myself, who is for me? But if I care only for myself, what am I?